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	<title>Comments on: Did fantasy blur reality - the Virginia college shootings.</title>
	<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/</link>
	<description>Ever the arty Autie</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7443</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7443</guid>
		<description>Hi Moggy,

in New Scientist Magazine issue 21st April 2007, there's an article called In Denial.

It cites that the average US school child leaves elementary school having witnessed more than 8000 murders and 100,000 other acts of violence on TV.  If the child has access to computer games or films this figure will be far far higher.

It goes on to explain that studies have found an even higher correlation between viewing violence and committing it than the already accepted proven links between passive smoking and cancer risk, condom use and HIV minimisation, and three times the strength of findings that calcium increases bone strength.

It explores why in spite of all this the public refuses to take the link seriously simply because ALL kids exposed in this way will not become violent (and all people passively inhaling tobacco won't get lung cancer either).

Anyway, may be worth having a look.  It's an awesome article.  My husband reads the magazine and we explore some of the issues in it.

:-) Donna *)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Moggy,</p>
<p>in New Scientist Magazine issue 21st April 2007, there&#8217;s an article called In Denial.</p>
<p>It cites that the average US school child leaves elementary school having witnessed more than 8000 murders and 100,000 other acts of violence on TV.  If the child has access to computer games or films this figure will be far far higher.</p>
<p>It goes on to explain that studies have found an even higher correlation between viewing violence and committing it than the already accepted proven links between passive smoking and cancer risk, condom use and HIV minimisation, and three times the strength of findings that calcium increases bone strength.</p>
<p>It explores why in spite of all this the public refuses to take the link seriously simply because ALL kids exposed in this way will not become violent (and all people passively inhaling tobacco won&#8217;t get lung cancer either).</p>
<p>Anyway, may be worth having a look.  It&#8217;s an awesome article.  My husband reads the magazine and we explore some of the issues in it.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blog.donnawilliams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Donna *)</p>
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		<title>By: Moggymania</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7441</link>
		<dc:creator>Moggymania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7441</guid>
		<description>I don't think that the internet most forms has anything to do with it, or necessarily has a "distancing" effect from reality...  It's too much like the same scapegoating that we're seeing against people with mental illness -- or that has been seen towards every major new form of interaction. 

Given the sheer numbers of people online, I think that if we could point to the Internet as being a problem, we'd be seeing far more *new* problems.   So far, the main change is that now the public is starting to acknowledge the incredible problems with bullying that many of us have pointed to all along.  (What I've seen online, actually, has been an increase in empathy as people become friends with others they never would have gotten to know in-person.  I've also seen a lot of cases of "online friends" going to incredible lengths to help one another or various pets out in the "real world".)

Aside from weapons being way too easy to acquire, the big things standing out about the shooters in my country so far is that they were all subject to severe abuse from their peers, and they were all allowed to suffer (or even tormented) by the teachers that were supposed to protect them.  They also all made clear references to the problem in their final communications.  (There's a great article on it here: &lt;a href="http://www.republicoft.com/2007/04/20/how-to-create-a-school-shooter/" rel="nofollow"&gt;How To Create A School Shooter&lt;/a&gt;)

Most kids that are bullied don't snap like that, but most also have one thing or another helping them cope. In my case, I had a lot of little things that were enough for the two years I was being abused at school... Even with the short length and coping ability, though, I was still full enough with hatred towards almost everyone there that it seems reasonable to figure I would have snapped if things had gone on long enough, or if I didn't have what I needed to cope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the internet most forms has anything to do with it, or necessarily has a &#8220;distancing&#8221; effect from reality&#8230;  It&#8217;s too much like the same scapegoating that we&#8217;re seeing against people with mental illness &#8212; or that has been seen towards every major new form of interaction. </p>
<p>Given the sheer numbers of people online, I think that if we could point to the Internet as being a problem, we&#8217;d be seeing far more *new* problems.   So far, the main change is that now the public is starting to acknowledge the incredible problems with bullying that many of us have pointed to all along.  (What I&#8217;ve seen online, actually, has been an increase in empathy as people become friends with others they never would have gotten to know in-person.  I&#8217;ve also seen a lot of cases of &#8220;online friends&#8221; going to incredible lengths to help one another or various pets out in the &#8220;real world&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Aside from weapons being way too easy to acquire, the big things standing out about the shooters in my country so far is that they were all subject to severe abuse from their peers, and they were all allowed to suffer (or even tormented) by the teachers that were supposed to protect them.  They also all made clear references to the problem in their final communications.  (There&#8217;s a great article on it here: <a href="http://www.republicoft.com/2007/04/20/how-to-create-a-school-shooter/" rel="nofollow">How To Create A School Shooter</a>)</p>
<p>Most kids that are bullied don&#8217;t snap like that, but most also have one thing or another helping them cope. In my case, I had a lot of little things that were enough for the two years I was being abused at school&#8230; Even with the short length and coping ability, though, I was still full enough with hatred towards almost everyone there that it seems reasonable to figure I would have snapped if things had gone on long enough, or if I didn&#8217;t have what I needed to cope.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7241</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 05:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7241</guid>
		<description>I meant "high school killing" ... not the recent one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant &#8220;high school killing&#8221; &#8230; not the recent one.</p>
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		<title>By: tt</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7232</link>
		<dc:creator>tt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/04/17/did-fantasy-blur-reality-the-virginia-college-shootings/#comment-7232</guid>
		<description>I think the media should have not shown his videos.  This is what he wanted, and he won in this sense.  Also, it's an example to OTHERS who might like what he did -- this shows that if they send a video to the media and do what he did, their faces and names will be seen world wide -- this is what MOTIVATES them to do things like this -- they want to be famous in this sense -- it's better than living to them.

If the first school killing spree was never publicized, I tend to think there would have never been any additional ones in the future in various places in the country, and none of the threats of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the media should have not shown his videos.  This is what he wanted, and he won in this sense.  Also, it&#8217;s an example to OTHERS who might like what he did &#8212; this shows that if they send a video to the media and do what he did, their faces and names will be seen world wide &#8212; this is what MOTIVATES them to do things like this &#8212; they want to be famous in this sense &#8212; it&#8217;s better than living to them.</p>
<p>If the first school killing spree was never publicized, I tend to think there would have never been any additional ones in the future in various places in the country, and none of the threats of this.</p>
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