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	<title>Comments on: Agnosia, sensory perception and autism</title>
	<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/</link>
	<description>Ever the arty Autie</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-16855</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-16855</guid>
		<description>Hi Marla,

I was diagnosed with Language Processing Disorder (which is Auditory Verbal agnosia) years after my dx of autism but was probably early dx'd with it at age 9 when I was tested for deafness and found unable to understand language.  

so there are specialists who test for it and distinguish it from CAPD (which is closer to auditory agnosia).  The difference is that CAPD doesn't effect ability to read with meaning (visual-verbal agnosia) but LPD does.  

I was dx'd with Scotopic Sensitivity Syndrome (in my case visual perceptual fragmentation) by Irlen educational psychs but in my late teens a psychiatrist declared I was 'agnosic' when experiencing my meaning blindness, though most with meaning blindness would be presumed LD.  I was also tested by an educational psych for finger agnosia (atactile agnosia), though it wasn't explained at the time.  There are some neurological psychologists who can formally test for agnosias these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marla,</p>
<p>I was diagnosed with Language Processing Disorder (which is Auditory Verbal agnosia) years after my dx of autism but was probably early dx&#8217;d with it at age 9 when I was tested for deafness and found unable to understand language.  </p>
<p>so there are specialists who test for it and distinguish it from CAPD (which is closer to auditory agnosia).  The difference is that CAPD doesn&#8217;t effect ability to read with meaning (visual-verbal agnosia) but LPD does.  </p>
<p>I was dx&#8217;d with Scotopic Sensitivity Syndrome (in my case visual perceptual fragmentation) by Irlen educational psychs but in my late teens a psychiatrist declared I was &#8216;agnosic&#8217; when experiencing my meaning blindness, though most with meaning blindness would be presumed LD.  I was also tested by an educational psych for finger agnosia (atactile agnosia), though it wasn&#8217;t explained at the time.  There are some neurological psychologists who can formally test for agnosias these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-16828</link>
		<dc:creator>Marla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-16828</guid>
		<description>Donna, what is the best way to 'test' for meaning deafness and blindness? I really do not know that either fit my 8 yr. old autie granddaughter, but would like to find out, for her sake. Love the books, music and art. Keep it up!!!!
Marla Miller/USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, what is the best way to &#8216;test&#8217; for meaning deafness and blindness? I really do not know that either fit my 8 yr. old autie granddaughter, but would like to find out, for her sake. Love the books, music and art. Keep it up!!!!<br />
Marla Miller/USA</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-15187</link>
		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-15187</guid>
		<description>I'm glad you've found it useful.
Over the years in helping my clients as a consultant, I had to look far wider than the ASD label.  When I found that many had Selective Mutism, I was shocked that the Selective Mutism sites explicitly said their kids did not include those with autism, as though the conditions were exclusive, yet after much lobbying, the sites then made clear that children with developmental disabilities, tics and speech impediments (ie Oral Dyspraxia) were more likely to develop Selective Mutism.

Similarly, seemed few had considered the role of learned dependency in 'severe autism' because it suggested a sociological perspective and the prevailing view was that all people with autism tried their hardest to be capable.  It was a hot potato because it meant families needed help to change, not just the person with autism needing 'help'.

And agnosia is similar.  Those who suffer from sensory hypersensitivities have diverted the attention from sensory perceptual disorders until the two are confused.  Sensory hypersensitivities can be far easier to adapt to that sensory perceptual disorders (you can't sort meaning deafness with a ear plugs).  Hypersensitivities can occur for MANY reasons, only one of which is due to the fallout of sensory flooding associated with sensory perceptual disorders.

And when those with hypersensitivities NOT due to sensory perceptual disorders make proclamations which divert from real, often more complex help needs, for those with sensory perceptual disorders, then we get this simplified, skewed reality.  It can go so far that people claim cultural pride based on sensitivities when they're not living in the confusion of sensory perceptual disorders.  I'm trying to tidy up that confusion because even once once can grasp some degree of processing visuals and blah for meaning or body feedback, total shutdowns in the ability to comprehend visuals or blah or experience body can be terrifying.  But there's so many groups invested in particular views of ASD or ensuring their own ASD is seen as THE ASD,  Still, I'm an optimist ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve found it useful.<br />
Over the years in helping my clients as a consultant, I had to look far wider than the ASD label.  When I found that many had Selective Mutism, I was shocked that the Selective Mutism sites explicitly said their kids did not include those with autism, as though the conditions were exclusive, yet after much lobbying, the sites then made clear that children with developmental disabilities, tics and speech impediments (ie Oral Dyspraxia) were more likely to develop Selective Mutism.</p>
<p>Similarly, seemed few had considered the role of learned dependency in &#8217;severe autism&#8217; because it suggested a sociological perspective and the prevailing view was that all people with autism tried their hardest to be capable.  It was a hot potato because it meant families needed help to change, not just the person with autism needing &#8216;help&#8217;.</p>
<p>And agnosia is similar.  Those who suffer from sensory hypersensitivities have diverted the attention from sensory perceptual disorders until the two are confused.  Sensory hypersensitivities can be far easier to adapt to that sensory perceptual disorders (you can&#8217;t sort meaning deafness with a ear plugs).  Hypersensitivities can occur for MANY reasons, only one of which is due to the fallout of sensory flooding associated with sensory perceptual disorders.</p>
<p>And when those with hypersensitivities NOT due to sensory perceptual disorders make proclamations which divert from real, often more complex help needs, for those with sensory perceptual disorders, then we get this simplified, skewed reality.  It can go so far that people claim cultural pride based on sensitivities when they&#8217;re not living in the confusion of sensory perceptual disorders.  I&#8217;m trying to tidy up that confusion because even once once can grasp some degree of processing visuals and blah for meaning or body feedback, total shutdowns in the ability to comprehend visuals or blah or experience body can be terrifying.  But there&#8217;s so many groups invested in particular views of ASD or ensuring their own ASD is seen as THE ASD,  Still, I&#8217;m an optimist <img src='http://blog.donnawilliams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ronna hocbein</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-15172</link>
		<dc:creator>ronna hocbein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2007/11/02/agnosia-and-autism/#comment-15172</guid>
		<description>donna...this information is fantastic, thank you so much for sharing what you decipher...i have a son with aspergers...and am an ot and this helps my problem solving immensely. I have read two of your books, and apparently i need to read more
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donna&#8230;this information is fantastic, thank you so much for sharing what you decipher&#8230;i have a son with aspergers&#8230;and am an ot and this helps my problem solving immensely. I have read two of your books, and apparently i need to read more<br />
thanks</p>
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