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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2008/07/13/go-vegan-and-save-the-planet-whats-your-excuse/comment-page-1/#comment-21124</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks once again. The problem, he does not care about objects..his reward is food, that he has to chew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks once again. The problem, he does not care about objects..his reward is food, that he has to chew.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d start with the one-two-three approach
so it&#039;s clearly defined all food is subject to the one two three chews
then he knows the minimum expected
and work out what his rewards are for that
so he comes to feel he gets something for this &#039;sacrifice&#039;.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d start with the one-two-three approach<br />
so it&#8217;s clearly defined all food is subject to the one two three chews<br />
then he knows the minimum expected<br />
and work out what his rewards are for that<br />
so he comes to feel he gets something for this &#8217;sacrifice&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna, 
Problem, he does not chew gum. I have given it to him and he immedetly swallows it. He is lactose intolerant, therefore the soy stuff. I have asked him to chew the food, and he ignores me. What you did in your 20&#039;s with food and drink, he has done for the past 15 years. When he awoken from the catatonia, 8 full months, this is when the eating/chewing problem began. Before catatonia, he chewed the food and did not growl when spoken to during eating. I will try the non-gluten approach.  Thanks once again for the info, you are great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna,<br />
Problem, he does not chew gum. I have given it to him and he immedetly swallows it. He is lactose intolerant, therefore the soy stuff. I have asked him to chew the food, and he ignores me. What you did in your 20&#8217;s with food and drink, he has done for the past 15 years. When he awoken from the catatonia, 8 full months, this is when the eating/chewing problem began. Before catatonia, he chewed the food and did not growl when spoken to during eating. I will try the non-gluten approach.  Thanks once again for the info, you are great.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be worried about daily soy as soy reduces gut IgA (gut immunity) so essentially would reduce digestion at that level.  The other pulses don&#039;t do this, so they&#039;d be a better plan.

chewing is essential to production of IgA in saliva which is the gut&#039;s first message of which foods are on the way with which enzyme production is triggered to fully digest those foods... no chewing = very poorly digested foods and that can mean progressive  functional malnutrition, high toxicity, oxidative stress, a systemic inflammatory state and associated imbalanced brain chemistry when undigested proteins cross and inflamed blood brain barrier and and a degree of brain starvation with reduced digestion meaning poorer nutrition reaching the brain... all in all bad news, chewing is essential... 

the docs taught me that in my 20s, they were appalled that I would barely chew food, swallowed most whole or drank it or at mushy things... I felt everything was getting stuck in my throat... I have poor movement down there... it&#039;s not constricted, it&#039;s a muscle feedback thing... I have a degree of hypotonia and I just get hiccups easy or food just sits there back logging... so I used to regurgitate things like bread, meat, anything that required chewing.  

But that doesn&#039;t change that LEARNING to chew is essential.  A good low salicylate toxin free chewing gum is a good start.  There&#039;s one here called Sweet Life Dental Gum which isn&#039;t as scary as most gum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be worried about daily soy as soy reduces gut IgA (gut immunity) so essentially would reduce digestion at that level.  The other pulses don&#8217;t do this, so they&#8217;d be a better plan.</p>
<p>chewing is essential to production of IgA in saliva which is the gut&#8217;s first message of which foods are on the way with which enzyme production is triggered to fully digest those foods&#8230; no chewing = very poorly digested foods and that can mean progressive  functional malnutrition, high toxicity, oxidative stress, a systemic inflammatory state and associated imbalanced brain chemistry when undigested proteins cross and inflamed blood brain barrier and and a degree of brain starvation with reduced digestion meaning poorer nutrition reaching the brain&#8230; all in all bad news, chewing is essential&#8230; </p>
<p>the docs taught me that in my 20s, they were appalled that I would barely chew food, swallowed most whole or drank it or at mushy things&#8230; I felt everything was getting stuck in my throat&#8230; I have poor movement down there&#8230; it&#8217;s not constricted, it&#8217;s a muscle feedback thing&#8230; I have a degree of hypotonia and I just get hiccups easy or food just sits there back logging&#8230; so I used to regurgitate things like bread, meat, anything that required chewing.  </p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t change that LEARNING to chew is essential.  A good low salicylate toxin free chewing gum is a good start.  There&#8217;s one here called Sweet Life Dental Gum which isn&#8217;t as scary as most gum.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna,
Eli has been off the cow products (He has soy products) for the past 5 years. Also B12 injections were given for 3 years. He now takes B12 supplements. I did notice the improvement in the areas of defiance, bowel problems, attention span and all around general health. His speech is still 1-3 word sentences. He has his own language though and I can understand him. Since he lives with his autistic roommate (5 yrs. now) my hopes were he would progress on speech as his roommate never is quiet. Thanks for the info on gluten, I will try to delete that from his diet as a 30 day experiment. Is that enough time for results? He is severely limited on sugar and eats very tiny amounts of red meat. Problem, he does not chew his food, we cut it up into small bites. He growls at us if we speak to him while he eats. He shovels the food into his mouth very fast. His teeth are in great shape. He appears not to like food in his mouth but he likes to eat. What&#039;s up with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna,<br />
Eli has been off the cow products (He has soy products) for the past 5 years. Also B12 injections were given for 3 years. He now takes B12 supplements. I did notice the improvement in the areas of defiance, bowel problems, attention span and all around general health. His speech is still 1-3 word sentences. He has his own language though and I can understand him. Since he lives with his autistic roommate (5 yrs. now) my hopes were he would progress on speech as his roommate never is quiet. Thanks for the info on gluten, I will try to delete that from his diet as a 30 day experiment. Is that enough time for results? He is severely limited on sugar and eats very tiny amounts of red meat. Problem, he does not chew his food, we cut it up into small bites. He growls at us if we speak to him while he eats. He shovels the food into his mouth very fast. His teeth are in great shape. He appears not to like food in his mouth but he likes to eat. What&#8217;s up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re 3/4 vegitarian now, with red meat (lamb) once a week, chicken or fish once every 3 days.  I&#039;m doing really well with it, yay!

If someone had a severe functional B12 deficiency and went off meat, they might experience enough cognitive difficulty and anxiety to become non-verbal, yeah.  And those with iron deficiency (one problem I haven&#039;t had - yay!) would also have to be careful they got enough iron off meat.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re 3/4 vegitarian now, with red meat (lamb) once a week, chicken or fish once every 3 days.  I&#8217;m doing really well with it, yay!</p>
<p>If someone had a severe functional B12 deficiency and went off meat, they might experience enough cognitive difficulty and anxiety to become non-verbal, yeah.  And those with iron deficiency (one problem I haven&#8217;t had &#8211; yay!) would also have to be careful they got enough iron off meat.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do I need to face that some of us, for whatever metabolic chaos that may be, just aren’t designed to  survive as vegetarians?&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe it&#039;s finally something you, me, and Temple Grandin can all agree on.  :-)

I don&#039;t have as restricted a diet as yours, but I still can&#039;t handle vegetarian or vegan.  I&#039;ve tried both.  The moment I started eating meat, I started feeling better.  

I don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; a lot of meat.  I&#039;m an incredibly picky eater when it comes to meat, I gag on many kinds of it if they&#039;re not made to my own idosyncratic specifications.

I&#039;ve also had a chronic illness that fluctuates in severity (whatever it is seems to run in my family).  It involves, at its worst, muscles that just plain give out.  It &lt;em&gt;seems&lt;/em&gt; (and I know how dangerous it is to trust &#039;seems&#039; in something that fluctuates to begin with) to respond really well to meat, and to some meat-based supplements.  If it does work, it doesn&#039;t make me get over it, it just makes it less severe.  But given what the most severe form of it is like, I&#039;ll take &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; less severe I can get.

I used to know a woman who became non-verbal if she didn&#039;t eat enough red meat.

And Temple Grandin can&#039;t function without meat either.  (She tried vegetarianism too.)

I always hear from vegetarians that I didn&#039;t do vegetarianism &#039;right&#039; or I would have been fine.  But I did do it right, I toko all the supplements and everything.  I just can&#039;t seem to stay healthy (or as healthy as I get) without meat, and I think the conflict there is a matter of reality (the reality of my life) conflicting with ideology (the belief that eating no meat is healthy for everyone, and/or the only ethical way to be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do I need to face that some of us, for whatever metabolic chaos that may be, just aren’t designed to  survive as vegetarians?</i></p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s finally something you, me, and Temple Grandin can all agree on.  <img src='http://blog.donnawilliams.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have as restricted a diet as yours, but I still can&#8217;t handle vegetarian or vegan.  I&#8217;ve tried both.  The moment I started eating meat, I started feeling better.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t <em>like</em> a lot of meat.  I&#8217;m an incredibly picky eater when it comes to meat, I gag on many kinds of it if they&#8217;re not made to my own idosyncratic specifications.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also had a chronic illness that fluctuates in severity (whatever it is seems to run in my family).  It involves, at its worst, muscles that just plain give out.  It <em>seems</em> (and I know how dangerous it is to trust &#8217;seems&#8217; in something that fluctuates to begin with) to respond really well to meat, and to some meat-based supplements.  If it does work, it doesn&#8217;t make me get over it, it just makes it less severe.  But given what the most severe form of it is like, I&#8217;ll take <em>any</em> less severe I can get.</p>
<p>I used to know a woman who became non-verbal if she didn&#8217;t eat enough red meat.</p>
<p>And Temple Grandin can&#8217;t function without meat either.  (She tried vegetarianism too.)</p>
<p>I always hear from vegetarians that I didn&#8217;t do vegetarianism &#8216;right&#8217; or I would have been fine.  But I did do it right, I toko all the supplements and everything.  I just can&#8217;t seem to stay healthy (or as healthy as I get) without meat, and I think the conflict there is a matter of reality (the reality of my life) conflicting with ideology (the belief that eating no meat is healthy for everyone, and/or the only ethical way to be).</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I low in iron and don&#039;t metabolise it well from plants so I am a regular meat eater, but not necessarily a daily meat eater.

I don&#039;t see anything wrong with cutting down meat eating to a sustainable level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I low in iron and don&#8217;t metabolise it well from plants so I am a regular meat eater, but not necessarily a daily meat eater.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with cutting down meat eating to a sustainable level.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrianna Hey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrianna Hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I am not a big fan of eating meat anyway, especially red meat. I just am not crazy about the taste/texture. So I can make the sacrifice.:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I am not a big fan of eating meat anyway, especially red meat. I just am not crazy about the taste/texture. So I can make the sacrifice.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Adrianna Hey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrianna Hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to go vegetarian. My issue is that I haven&#039;t money of my own, and no one else has any interest in this. So I&#039;m kinda at the mercy of my family. Nonetheless, there are a lot of good vegetarian foods out there, so I wouldn&#039;t mind doing that. You just have to shop around. Boca makes good veggie burgers.:) Silk makes great yogurt and milk from soy.

And I agree that while producing meat can contribute to unsustainable living and global warming, there are a lot of other factors to consider. So even if we all just cut out red meat, walked or used public transportation, etc., that would help so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to go vegetarian. My issue is that I haven&#8217;t money of my own, and no one else has any interest in this. So I&#8217;m kinda at the mercy of my family. Nonetheless, there are a lot of good vegetarian foods out there, so I wouldn&#8217;t mind doing that. You just have to shop around. Boca makes good veggie burgers.:) Silk makes great yogurt and milk from soy.</p>
<p>And I agree that while producing meat can contribute to unsustainable living and global warming, there are a lot of other factors to consider. So even if we all just cut out red meat, walked or used public transportation, etc., that would help so much.</p>
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