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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s in an IQ score?</title>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2009/05/15/whats-in-an-iq-score/comment-page-1/#comment-30844</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 07:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what happens Donna when because of  disruptive behaviors a child with autism cant cope in a mainstream setting The only option for most of them  here right now in Victoria is a special school education. And a lot of children with autism will score as having an intellectual disabillity becasue of language issues so its where they end up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what happens Donna when because of  disruptive behaviors a child with autism cant cope in a mainstream setting The only option for most of them  here right now in Victoria is a special school education. And a lot of children with autism will score as having an intellectual disabillity becasue of language issues so its where they end up.</p>
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		<title>By: donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your lovely comment Emily.  Many people have an autism fruit salad, of which ADHD is often a part.  It really depends on the most problematic features at a given time and how the combined effects present developmentally, behaviourally, cognitively.  Although ADHD runs on my father&#039;s side, so does bipolar and I cope well on a small amount of Seroquel which happens to knock out much of the ADHD as well as Exposure Anxiety, tics and OCD in my case.  There are stats that 50% of those dx&#039;d with ADHD actually have rapid cycling bipolar (or both) and that in those cases the bipolar must be medicated first.  I have a friend with AS and ADHD who is on Ritalin which has saved her I&#039;m sure.  But in my case I don&#039;t think I need speeding up, I&#039;m already so sped up its hard to consciously experience my thoughts except through typing, music, art, but I know they&#039;re cohesive in there, just consciously they are sort of like static unless I&#039;m using my hands.  That organises them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your lovely comment Emily.  Many people have an autism fruit salad, of which ADHD is often a part.  It really depends on the most problematic features at a given time and how the combined effects present developmentally, behaviourally, cognitively.  Although ADHD runs on my father&#8217;s side, so does bipolar and I cope well on a small amount of Seroquel which happens to knock out much of the ADHD as well as Exposure Anxiety, tics and OCD in my case.  There are stats that 50% of those dx&#8217;d with ADHD actually have rapid cycling bipolar (or both) and that in those cases the bipolar must be medicated first.  I have a friend with AS and ADHD who is on Ritalin which has saved her I&#8217;m sure.  But in my case I don&#8217;t think I need speeding up, I&#8217;m already so sped up its hard to consciously experience my thoughts except through typing, music, art, but I know they&#8217;re cohesive in there, just consciously they are sort of like static unless I&#8217;m using my hands.  That organises them.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Peak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Peak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 02:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>donna, 
 I am reading your book &quot;Nobody nowhere&quot; for the second time, and I wanted you to know how inspiring you are to me. I decided to look you up on the internet, and found this site. I cant believe how talented you are! Your artwork is awesome! I began crying last night while reading your book, as I thought back to difficult times in my childhood. I sought help on my own in my mid 20s and was diagnosed with ADHD. I had a psychologist tell me that he wouldnt expect me to have a bachelors degree in anything, based on an intelligence test he gave me. later, a psychiatrist started me on ritalin, which basically changed my life. But I remember in college trying to figure out what was wrong with me while taking psychology classes, and I thought &quot;maybe I am very mildly autistic, or mildly retarded&quot; it was a frustrating journey! And although I think ADHD is a big part of the problem, I dont think it&#039;s the whole picture. Anyway, I just wanted you to know how inspired I am by your story, and I also love your music! I love that mutations song. Take care, Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>donna,<br />
 I am reading your book &#8220;Nobody nowhere&#8221; for the second time, and I wanted you to know how inspiring you are to me. I decided to look you up on the internet, and found this site. I cant believe how talented you are! Your artwork is awesome! I began crying last night while reading your book, as I thought back to difficult times in my childhood. I sought help on my own in my mid 20s and was diagnosed with ADHD. I had a psychologist tell me that he wouldnt expect me to have a bachelors degree in anything, based on an intelligence test he gave me. later, a psychiatrist started me on ritalin, which basically changed my life. But I remember in college trying to figure out what was wrong with me while taking psychology classes, and I thought &#8220;maybe I am very mildly autistic, or mildly retarded&#8221; it was a frustrating journey! And although I think ADHD is a big part of the problem, I dont think it&#8217;s the whole picture. Anyway, I just wanted you to know how inspired I am by your story, and I also love your music! I love that mutations song. Take care, Emily</p>
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		<title>By: AnneC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnneC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Donna. This is very interesting to read and I am intrigued to read it also because I have been thinking of doing a post about &quot;uneven&quot; abilities myself. Because I have noticed that a fair number of autistic people seem to get accused of being &quot;inconsistent&quot;, as if this somehow connotes falsity in how they are presenting themselves. 

When in fact it looks very much to me in reading, for instance, Kanner&#039;s original paper on the children he observed, that the &quot;inconsistency&quot; was a *defining feature* of autism, NOT a contradiction of it. In fact, the opposite of contradiction!

I am diagnosed with Asperger&#039;s myself (prior to that PDD-NOS, prior to that ADHD and social phobia, and prior to *that* was described as having &quot;emotional disturbance&quot;). I was born in 1978 and attended special education preschool due to &quot;concerns about [my] social and emotional development&quot; but was not officially diagnosed with anything &quot;spectrum&quot; until my twenties (I&#039;m 30 as of December 2008). 

I had very clear and precise-sounding verbal expressive language at a fairly young age but it included a lot of &quot;scripting&quot; and often took the form of long run-on narratives and lists and such. I think there very well could be a subset of auties who have more difficulty with receptive language than (at least superficially) expressive language. I know that for me I often did not understand what I was saying or what was being asked of me and could not report things like many internal sensations until fairly recently. Everything was pattern-matching.

IQ tests are indeed odd. I also had very uneven scores; &quot;bright to superior&quot; in some subtests, but &quot;borderline&quot; in others. Was very surprised to learn that there were other people with that sort of pattern as I&#039;d grown up in a climate where it seemed to be presumed if you were &quot;smart&quot; you were good in everything and if you were &quot;stupid&quot; you were unskilled in everything. When those categories in addition to being crude are far too narrow for real people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Donna. This is very interesting to read and I am intrigued to read it also because I have been thinking of doing a post about &#8220;uneven&#8221; abilities myself. Because I have noticed that a fair number of autistic people seem to get accused of being &#8220;inconsistent&#8221;, as if this somehow connotes falsity in how they are presenting themselves. </p>
<p>When in fact it looks very much to me in reading, for instance, Kanner&#8217;s original paper on the children he observed, that the &#8220;inconsistency&#8221; was a *defining feature* of autism, NOT a contradiction of it. In fact, the opposite of contradiction!</p>
<p>I am diagnosed with Asperger&#8217;s myself (prior to that PDD-NOS, prior to that ADHD and social phobia, and prior to *that* was described as having &#8220;emotional disturbance&#8221;). I was born in 1978 and attended special education preschool due to &#8220;concerns about [my] social and emotional development&#8221; but was not officially diagnosed with anything &#8220;spectrum&#8221; until my twenties (I&#8217;m 30 as of December 2008). </p>
<p>I had very clear and precise-sounding verbal expressive language at a fairly young age but it included a lot of &#8220;scripting&#8221; and often took the form of long run-on narratives and lists and such. I think there very well could be a subset of auties who have more difficulty with receptive language than (at least superficially) expressive language. I know that for me I often did not understand what I was saying or what was being asked of me and could not report things like many internal sensations until fairly recently. Everything was pattern-matching.</p>
<p>IQ tests are indeed odd. I also had very uneven scores; &#8220;bright to superior&#8221; in some subtests, but &#8220;borderline&#8221; in others. Was very surprised to learn that there were other people with that sort of pattern as I&#8217;d grown up in a climate where it seemed to be presumed if you were &#8220;smart&#8221; you were good in everything and if you were &#8220;stupid&#8221; you were unskilled in everything. When those categories in addition to being crude are far too narrow for real people.</p>
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