Alexithymia and the problem with ‘How Are You?’.
I was a kid who’d fall out of a tree and never cry. Winded, bruised, I’d get up and try and keep going, puzzled that I was winded or that a bruised limb wouldn’t move well. Emotionally, I had ’emotional fits’ several times a day when it was like a laundry basket of unprocessed, undifferentiated emotions would suddenly come to the surface, feeling I was eaten up by tidal waves. I had no words for these and couldn’t tell what moods were in there, what situations they’d come from, so I’d just rage at myself, biting, hitting, pulling my hair or race around in circles like a tortured animal.Â
I didn’t have functional speech but could recite advertisements, songs, lines from TV and had made up words. You could generally tell my mood from the style of verbage coming out, but I couldn’t. I had no idea how I was feeling. I lived in each moment and each moment was disconnected from the last. In the absence of knowing what I was feeling or how to express that through my face or body, I generally kept a one-size-fits-all smile ready because people seemed to prefer smiling people and I’d had enough abuse to learn it was important to be adoptable. By my teens I had functional speech but when my mother would ask ‘how was your day’. Having no idea HOW my day and no ability to work out which information was relevant, I’d simply reel off litany style EVERY minute happening of the day. Ask how I was and I’d just walk off.
In my 20s, with a mosaic mind I couldn’t internally reason or reflect about myself. I needed a way to externally mentalise, to get it all ‘out there’ in one cohesive whole so I could grasp who I had been, what I had felt. I did that through the writing of Nobody Nowhere, the first of my 9 published books with Jessica Kingsley Publishers. And whilst I came to understand my own ‘autism fruit salad’ as made up of gut, immune, metabolic, mood, anxiety, compulsive disorders, visual, verbal and body agnosias, dyspraxia and dyslexia issues all in an autistic personality package, I had never heard of Alexithymia and was shocked to read that it is common to around 85% of adults on the autism spectrum. And there I was staring back at so much of my own journey and questioning how much we might sometimes be looking at Alexithymia and calling it autism itself.
According to Wikipedia, Alexithymia is believed to involve a transfer deficit between right hemisphere areas of the brain which process emotion and those in the left hemisphere which manage communication. There is apparently a question as to whether this also occurs in those with a decreased Corpus Collosum, the ‘operator’ which transfers messages between the two brain hemipsheres, which has been found more prevalent in those with autism. Interestingly, it is also found decreased in children who have suffered extreme abuse throughout childhood. One might wonder how much more Alexithymic an autistic child might be if they also suffered such abuse. Further, if, as Wikipedia cites, Alexithymics are more likely to develop substance abuse, certain personality disorders, mood, anxiety and compulsive disorders, eating disorders, even inflammatory bowel disease and allergies. It is always possible that a parent with Alexithymia may require far more support to care for their children than a parent without this condition and that without that support an Alexithymic parent might be more likely to have children with the same or greater issues.
The Wikipedia entry for Alexithymia cites that a parent who either fails to or is unable to respond to their child’s facial expression and body language can cause the underdevelopment of this same neurological ability in the child. Parents who themselves have Aspergers or autism who also have Social Emotional agnosia (and are therefore unable to spontaneously process facial expression or body language) may theoretically pass this same issue on to their child not just genetically, but environmentally at the neurological level.
In Like Colour To The Blind I developed a technique called ‘checking’ which used triggering to gauge emotions and their degree relating to various choices. It was wonderful. Finally, I could gauge my own emotions instead of relying on the ‘artificial limb’ of stored theoretical ideas of ‘what a person would feel’. But I still have great difficulty with that question, ‘how are you?’ and I reply things like, ‘no idea, I’ll let you know when I know’ or ‘I don’t work that way, I’m busy just being’, or ‘it’d take me a while, do you really need me to work it out?’. I could never understand why this irrelevant, alienating question gets used daily as a greeting. What a one-size-fits-all world, a world in which those with Alexithymia, which effects 85% of those with autism, must be invisible. So, maybe don’t greet me with ‘how are you?’ My husband doesn’t. He tends to say ‘hi. I had a good day today’ then just tells me about his. That works.
Donna Williams, Dip Ed, BA Hons
author, artist, singer-songwriter, screenwriter
I can relate to this a lot.
“How are you?” has always mystified me, because I usually don’t know the answer until someone has asked me that and caused me to go searching for the answer!
For me, the reason I don’t usually have an answer, or know what I’m feeling, is mostly because so much of my mental processing is taken up by sensory perception. I notice everything, and always in exacting detail. I write in this post about the sense of magicalness, or hyperreality, that the world has in my eyes: I perceive things in such detail that every moment I am literally dazzled.
As you might imagine, that doesn’t leave me a whole lot of headspace in which to do the running commentary that seems to be a key feature of most NTs’ conscious thought.
Though, once I learned about alexithymia, it occurred to me that, while the sensory issues do make it harder for me to do what is commonly considered *THINKING*, or to form any words at all, I do seem to have special difficulty coming up with words to describe feelings or mental states. I also don’t seem to be aware of them as I experience them.
(I never quite relied on “what a person should feel,” though, because I always knew I wouldn’t necessarily feel the same. Ah, the benefits of early diagnosis!)
Hmm.. I don’t know about this.
I don’t know if this is what’s wrong with me, but since about a year ago, I’ve felt this way..
I haven’t been like this my whole life. I know how to descripe my feelings.. I just don’t feel them anymore..
It started when I was with this girl.. She loved me, but I didn’t feel the same way. So I kept lying for days, weeks it even turned into months. But for each time I told her I loved her, I felt worse and worse.. At some point I stopped feeling bad. My feelings started to disappear.. In the end I couldn’t even tell whether I was saw or happy. I just didn’t know anymore.. Now I’m with another girl, who I really love. I sometimes get tears in my eyes when I look into hers.. But lately I’ve had these episodes.. I kinda’ lose all my feelings. I don’t know if I’m happy, sad or anything.. And the worst is.. I can’t tell if I love her.. It’s disappeared every time it came.. Sometimes half an hour later, sometimes a couple of days.. I just can’t continiue this way.. I know I love her, but sometimes I just can’t feel it. It’s killing me. And even worse, I told her last time. And the expression in her face.. It later hurt me.. When I ”got my feelings back” it really felt terrible.. I don’t know if I can keep living this way..
I’m sorrry, I just had to tell someone about it. I just wrote down what I got in mind. Sorry if it sounds bad or bad english.. I just don’t know what to do..
Oh Azin, you poor thing. Listen, you are OK. Seriously. People can have episodes of depression, and if they have rapid cycling bipolar they can even have just an hour or a day or a week of deadifying depression in which it is common to be unable to experience one’s feelings, to feel wooden, confused. THIS WOULD BE NO REFLECTION ON YOUR LOVE FOR THIS GIRL, NO REFLECTION ON YOUR CAPACITY TO LOVE AND CERTAINLY NO REASON TO GIVE UP YOUR LIFE.
There is a condition called Anhedonia.
This is part of depression where you feel emotionally dead. It can be in small episodes but for some people it becomes entrenched and becomes how they live. People with anhedonia are still equal people and they can still pragmatically care. Yes, they may go through the motions, yes, they may become cerebral, not emotional about ‘love’ or ‘caring’ but they are still equal and loveable.
Remember too that ‘in love’ is not the same as ‘love’. In love is a phase, an episode of longing, and once one has that object, usually the ‘in love’ experience becomes precious moments here and there and in between one just ‘loves’ and that’s NORMAL. And if one becomes detached at times, even has episodes of depression, social withdrawal, anhedonia, that is not a problem unless it becomes permanent.
Choose people who don’t need to be ‘special’ and don’t need you to constantly fixate on them, constantly effuse emotion, constantly ‘love them’ – how draining! How selfish! If they are a leaky bucket in constant need of filling that’s their problem, not yours. They have to learn to fill their own bucket sometimes with self love too.
Anyway, it is normal to emotionally shut down when exhausted, when people expect too much, when emotionally drained.
You really are OK. What you describe was something Ian suffered from in Like Colour To The Blind. I would also have such episodes as part of being both bipolar and an extremely solitary personality with Exposure Anxiety.
Now start accepting yourself, the WHOLE of you. You are not on earth just to please the emotional needs of others.
Hi again.
Right now I’m feeling pretty okay. So I thought it’d be a good idea to use this moment to thank you. It really means alot to me, that someone cares, and tries to help me. It kinda’ settles me down a bit, when I read your answer. Though some other times it seems useless.. I’m sorry about that.
I’m still not sure what’s wrong with me, but I appreaciate your help. thank you.. Alot.
Hi Azin
In acute depressive episodes everything can feel flat, futile, useless, empty. Then we are back level again we can find things useful, or in mania it can go to the other extreme and we can be overwhelmingly moved, grateful. I live with Rapid Cycling and this has been my reality since I was at least 3 years old. It is very hard to have an emotional self which is sharply fluctuating. It is like being at least three people and is hard on identity because its hard to know which is the main ‘self’.
In my case I choose to live by a diet, supplements and medication which help on many levels including leveling out but not flattening mood. In my case this means being GF/CF, low sugar, low salicylate, no coffee, taking omega 3s, L-Glutamine and also being on a low dose (50mg) of the bipolar medication Seroquel.
I hope you will talk to a doctor or psychiatrist about your struggles with emotional extremes, both of being overwhelmingly moved and of the extreme flatness. It’s important that the doctor can review the possibility of Bipolar because 15-20% of those with untreated bipolar kill themselves or die through misadventure, and I worry that you get extremely uncertain of life and selfhood when your emotional states become confusing, inconsistent and unstable. It is not defeat to see a professional, it takes humility and courage.
Good luck in your journey.
A question: if you can’t describe how you are feeling, how do you maintain a relationship with your husband? Does this impact badly on your relationship, either emotionally or physically? In what sort of ways does your husband get around this problem?
I tend to read my emotions externally, so if I’m jumping or skipping I’ll realise I’m happy. Sometimes I’ll feel my face with my hand, especially my mouth if its gone into a smile, and then I’m pleased to find I’m happy.
My husband is rather Aspie and identifies a bit with Alexithymia himself. He’s a warm, kind person but rather Mr Spock in that knowledge and logic are about 90% of his world. So he doesn’t naturally look for my feelings and I don’t miss him looking for them, in fact I prefer the lack of exposure of simply being.
As for emotionally and physically, I wrote of that in Everyday Heaven. We both enjoy routine to the max, it actually thrills us, so that is about 70% of our attachment is to do with shared routines, but we care very much for each other, we’re just like that. We’re the type to rescue lady birds and we look out for each other. Physically, well, that’s actually very funny how it works, so see if you can get hold of Everyday Heaven and see. But we can enjoy good food and good sex we just have no idea about initiating or liasing about it which gets pretty hilarious when that’s two sided.
🙂
The thing I don’t get is this: Alexithymia means no words for emotions, not no emotions at all. Is it just a difficulty processing the sensation to the brain saying “you are happy now” or “you are sad now” as opposed to never actually feeling happy, sad etc?
I will look for Everyday Heaven, but when you see you have no idea how to initiate, does that mean because you don’t know when you are feeling turned on? Sorry if this is getting too personal – I should ask more generally, would you say Alexis find it difficult to realise when they are turned on??
I know that Alexithymia can be of different degrees of strength in different people. Would you say that you are a strong/standard or weak case? Because one would imagine that the degree of the problem would affect that person’s degree of ability to be in a satisfying relationship.
goodness, ‘turned on’, well that’s a term I know exists but it makes people sound like light switches.
I would say there are definitely people far more Alexithymic than me. So if I contrast it with face blindness, I’m sort of severely-moderately face blind but was probably severely face blind in childhood. My bipolar stuff makes me far more emotional than most Alexithymics so I wouldn’t at all be the same as an Alexithymic with depression. Although an Alexithymic with Anhedonia would present as severe when in fact most is Anhedonia and if the person also had Hypotonia they could present more Alexithymically than someone who didn’t have Hypotonia. So I guess its a difficult question. I can say I feel I fit Alexithymia on cognitive levels, on personality levels and on perceptual levels but that in each case I’d say moderately. I certainly know of Alexithymics who would be extremely Alexithymic. I can think of a Paternal uncle who I think would be extremely Alexithymic.
I also think there are those who are far more Alexithymic in interaction with others than when alone simply because there’s then less information to process.
Hi,
Well, I kind of love someone who is with the condition you have described (Alexithymic). Actually I told him that I loved him and he decided to open up to the fact that he doesn´t like anyone, not even himself. He doesn´t feel anything, for nobody (not even family members) and he lies all the time for the past 2 years (just doing and acting as he is expected to act). Because we always had a good friendship and he kind of cares that he would not want to hurt me, because he probably can´t have a serious relashionship and I would not want to go casual and stuff. But he is in therapy for a couple months. Is it possible to expect he get cured? We have a chance to become more than friends? How can I help him?
(sorry for the english mistakes)
There are conditions that can resemble Alexithymia but are not. Schizoid Personality Disorder for example may mean the person struggles with intimacy so may feel detached from others and is out of touch with their own emotions and struggles to feel safe with them. Anhedonia is another condition that is not Alexithymia. With Anhedonia the person struggles to feel joy, to care, to feel for anyone, or themselves. But there is nothing about any of these conditions which would lead someone to lie or just try and act as others expect…. that would be more like a personality disorder. Those with certain personality disorders will have no problem lying and someone with sociopathic tendencies might more easily lying and string people along and also struggle to care about others or show empathy. As for helping him, that’s his job. Only the person themselves can drive the work to improve. A relationship shouldn’t be confused with playing mother/playing therapist… leave that to those people. A relationship is about being yourself, not being a worker or therapist.
Alexithymia would be like when an individual one day realizes they are depressed , but the next day they forget that that conclusion was ever made and they are not depressed? The person can never capture the feelings. Its like they run all over the place (the feelings) and the person can never really conceptualize whats going on. They look at you like your nuts and you dont know what you are talking about. I can tell when this person is sexually arroused before he can. I can tell when he is passive. I can tell when he is depressed or anxious before he can. I have learned to NOT mention these things in hopes to train his brain. I just react in ways that Q him so he does not feel critisized. What I have found is the way I react makes him “get it” the most. If he is passive I say, ” I see your having a bad day and what you have just said hurts my feelings. Im going back to work so I can cool down and I hope you can too. I will call you at 8pm” Usually he wont let me leave the room and behavior stops. But If I dont say anything and ask about it the next day we get know where because he forgets ( maybe selective at times) and states he feels “blind sided”. So he appreciates being told right away in the moment.