Paranoid Personality Disorder or Conspiracy theorist?
 Zealots love a conspiracy and there’s nothing anyone can do to HELP THEM get over the manifestation of what might even be THEIR personality disorder. So why do some people pull out all the stops to gather others with their same orientation to escalate their theories into hate, even into public shaming forums and as far as cyber stalking. Well the following info from Wikipedia on Paranoid Personality Disorder may help:
 Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. (DSM-IV) For a person’s personality to be considered a personality disorder, an enduring pattern of characteristic maladaptive behaviors, thinking and personality traits must be present from the onset of adolescence or early adulthood.
Those with paranoid personality disorder are hypersensitive, are easily slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions to validate their prejudicial ideas or biases. They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their incapacity for meaningful emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience. [1]
One of the most interesting things about zealous conspiracy theorists is you really CANNOT argue with them. It inflames them. And I’ve found it does no good at all to give them the facts, nor even invite them into an interview.
Furthermore, however illogical and irrational it may be, a conspiracy theorist can instantly elevate themselves to be an armchair expert on people they’ve either never met or met in such a limited or momentary manner that any stranger on a shared seat at a bus stop should also qualify. Yet they somehow narcissistically assume this right without hesitation.
A further section of Wikipedia’s entry on Paranoid Personality was interesting in this regard:
The ICD-10 lists paranoid personality disorder as F60.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder.
This personality disorder is characterized by at least 3 of the following:
(a) excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
(b) tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;
(c) suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
(d) a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;
(e) recurrent suspicions, without justification(f) tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
(g) preoccupation with unsubstantiated “conspiratorial” explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.
Interestingly, if this is added to another Personality Disorder, that of Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder, it is easy to imagine the drive of the two together would compound each other. It might also account for why such people may spend more time collectively building online hatred than actually living their daily lives (perhaps in a healthier, more diverse manner). To again quote from Wikipedia:
DSM IV-TR Criteria
“A pervasive pattern of preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and mental and interpersonal control, at the expense of flexibility, openness, and efficiency, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:
- Is preoccupied with details, rules, lists, order, organization, or schedules to the extent that the major point of the activity is lost.
- Shows perfectionism that interferes with task completion (e.g., is unable to complete a project because his or her own overly strict standards are not met)
- Is excessively devoted to productivity to the exclusion of leisure activities and friendships (not accounted for by obvious economic necessity)
- Is overconscientious, scrupulous, and inflexible about matters of morality, ethics, or values (not accounted for by cultural or religious identification)
- Shows rigidity and stubbornness
Is it possible we sometimes confuse those with such personality disorders with having Asperger’s? Could some with these personality disorders politically self-diagnose as ‘Autistics’. Would such personality disorders be more common in some adults with Asperger’s? Whilst there are many warm, open minded, even easy going people with Asperger’s there are certainly some who may also have personality disorders, even of the kind mentioned above.
As someone diagnosed with autism and language processing disorder, am I also personality disordered?
Well, its hard not to have days, weeks, months or even years of one’s development where one might fit personality disorders for one’s own personality traits. Add co-morbid mood, anxiety, compulsive disorders and they push up the tempo on one’s personality traits.
And if conspiracy theorists want to project personality disorders onto me, that’s fair provided that they project onto me the personality disorders which actually fit my personality traits. To help them out,
I’ll put my hands up to having managed any personality disorder manifestations of these traits, no problem.  For the record, I have never had any formal diagnosis of a personality disorder although I can imagine my case might be less juicy for the conspiracy theorists if I had have 😉
I’d like to finish with a poem sent to me by a commenter. Its called The Genius of The Crowd by Charles Bukowski.
Donna Williams
http://www.donnawilliams.net
If you truly are autistic than all you have to do is get a comprehensive autism evaluation done by a team of autism specialists. I’m sure you can find one where you live.
Also, your parents/family will have to be interviewed as well as this is a requirement of a true autism evaluation.
We just don’t understand why, since you claim that you really do have autism, you won’t do this.
If you really do have autism the evaluation will easily tell us.
Why can’t anyone speak to your family about your developmental history, your early years?
If you are telling the truth than this should be no problem, right?
Hi Nicole,
Autism Diagnosis
I was diagnosed by educational psychologist Dr Lawrie Bartak, one of Australia’s leading autism experts, from Melbourne’s Monash Medical Centre at Monash University. He has 40 years experience in the Autism field and was recently awarded Autism Victoria’s Exemplary Service Award in their 2008 Autism Recognition Awards.
He extensively interviewed the Paternal aunt who had been deeply involved with me since birth (she was the one who was going to adopt me, had fed and changed me since birth and was regularly involved with me until I was 15, so she was fairly reliable to discuss my history).
He came to speak for over an hour with my primary school teacher, Mr Frank Ryan, who by then had become Principal at the school he was teaching and managed special needs for his region.
He came to meet with Mrs Pauline Turzi (previously Pauline Cowie), the wife of my father’s best friend, Bill Cowie. Pauline had known me from age 7-13 and often saw me weekly or monthly during these years. She insisted that I “didn’t speak”. I knew I sang and did advertisements and long strings from TV shows, so contested this. She replied, “yes, you muttered to yourself but we couldn’t understand youâ€.
Dr Bartak also came to meet my brothers and met my mother. My father lived 3 hours from Melbourne and died before Dr Bartak could meet him.
Before publishers could publish my first book, Nobody Nowhere (which is a detailed account of my early history and childhood) I had to have ‘quit claims’ signed by all adult members of my family who were featured in that book. This required them to receive a copy of the manuscript to read and sign a waiver agreeing not to legally contest the publication. If they wished to block the book’s publication they need only have refused to sign the quit claims. Quit claims were signed by my mother, my father and my older brother, meaning that all had read and accepted my right to publish my account.
Signed written interview testimony was also gathered from my aunt about the validity of my account as well as a friend of the family who had known me since I was three years old and both were gathered by the lawyer at the time and are kept as legal records of the validity of my account.
I have been met by autism experts and leaders in the field the world over, Lorna Wing, Judith Gould, Pat Howlin, Rita Jordan, Adam Feinstein, Tony Attwood, Doug Biklen, Rosemary Crossley and could add probably another 50 to that list. ADHD, Dyslexia, bipolar, Asperger’s and autism have all been diagnosed on my father’s side of the family as does coeliac.
I was assessed as psychotic at age 2 in 1965 after a three day hospital observation at St Elmo’s Private Hospital in Brunswick, Victoria. According to my father I had been admitted to explore whether I was deaf (I had no blink response to loud noises) and whether I had leukemia (I had repeated infections and jaundice since 6 months of age) and why I had no pain response (I had had a stomach tensing and compulsive coughing tic that compelled me to the point I was coughing specks of blood). Throughout primary school I was regularly assessed by Psych and Guidance teams (school psychologists) and learned I had been formally labeled emotionally disturbed (in my school records). I was tested for deafness up until the age of 9 when my language processing disorder was finally understood (also later formally diagnosed by audiologist, Dr Leslie Tan).
In 1973, when I was 10 years old a teacher (who taught at Thornbury Primary school at the time) named Christine had been at one of my family’s 1970s parties. Fleeing the violence that erupted there by the early hours, she found me in the street. She beckoned me into the car and took me home overnight. According to my father, after returning me the next day, she had raised the word autism with my family, a word which in 1973 was a very accusative thing to say to a mother (the first popular ‘autism movie’ had come out in Australia in 1971, an Elvis film called Change of Habit in which the girl’s autism is attributed to supressed rage at her mother). In spite of this teacher’s suggestion, I continued to be more conveniently refered to as ‘disturbed’ until my 20s when I was formally diagnosed with autism.
Around age 10 (1973) I was also put onto Zinc, vitamin C and multivitamin-minerals and moved onto eating whole meals. It may be I was one of the first people with diagnosed with autism to be treated with vitamin therapy as well as antiinflammatories for juvenile rheumatism (after regularly body slamming my arms and shoulders and punching my legs) and sedatives for chronic anxiety (which I remained on to age 17). As a result of the changes implemented at age 9-11 my receptive language went from 10% to around 50%, which was enough to begin learning to understand and to use functional speech instead of just echolalia.
I was formally diagnosed with autism by Dr Bartak in 1991. I then spent 16 months seeing him regularly as a therapist and he still sees me now over 20 years later. Around the time of my diagnosis, at Dr Bartak’s request, I met with a team of his colleagues and students at the Monash Medical Centre and allowed them to extensively question me about my experiences.
In addition to being formally diagnosed with language processing disorder and autism, other diagnoses over the years including two primary immune deficiencies (no secretory IgA and a white cell deficiency), gluten, salicylate and phenol intolerance, severe casein allergy, type 2 diabetes, a B12 deficiency and a genetic myalgic condition which results in higher levels of inflammation than most people. I was also diagnosed with atypical epilepsy in my 20s, with a visual perceptual processing disorder at the age of 30, and medicated for lifelong mood, anxiety and compulsive disorders in my late 30s but I have never been diagnosed with any personality disorder.
An extensive photographic history of my development (most pics there were taken by my Paternal uncle who was a photographer) from the age of about 1 month old to the age of 14 and beyond can be viewed at any time.
Of course I’ve also had my critics. It’s important to consider their qualifications too.
A Sociology lecturer, PhD Chris Eipper, with no qualification in child development, no qualification to diagnose and whose experience of me was limited to appointments in his office as part of passing my honors degree took his views to Australian journalist, Kathy Golan at ABC. She too had no qualification with which to diagnose nor had ever met me. In her interview with Chris Eipper she featured two American psychiatrists by phone link up who were well qualified to diagnose autism, Dr Kathleen Dillon and Dr Fred Volkmar. Problem was they were 10,000 miles away, had never met me, and their views were based solely on reading my autobiography back in 1996 when it was still believed that over 70% of people with autism were severely mentally retarded.
The qualification of a professional to diagnose someone with autism or professionally question a diagnosis depends on at least three things:
* A) they are actually formally qualified in the first place (ie Doctorate in Psychiatry or Psychology),
* B) they have actually met and spent time with the person they are diagnosing and
* C) that time has been spent in a therapeutic setting and sufficient DSM based testing having been fully carried out with the individual being diagnosed.
Dr Eipper has no qualification to diagnose, the time spent in his office was hardly diagnostic and he has never been in a therapy role with me.
Dr Dillon and Dr Volkmar may both have qualifications but these amount to no qualification to diagnose me if they’ve never met me. They were being asked theoretical questions in a radio interview based only on reading a person’s account and were giving opinion about an individual they had never met.
I did email both Dr Dillon (at the US Consortium for Language Learning and Teaching) and Dr Volkmar (at Yale University) asking them on what basis they had felt professionally qualified to diagnose someone they had never met. I received no reply. Of course it would still be wonderful to receive a reply, even perhaps a public explanation for us all.
UPDATE: I have now heard from Dr Volkmar whose comments you can find here: http://blog.donnawilliams.net/2009/05/12/after-13-years-of-pain-dr-fred-volkmar-replies-to-donna-williams/
Donna,
What a strange post and stranger comments… You discussing conspiracy theorists and someone commenting displaying exactly what you described.
It sucks that you have to prove yourself to idiots, you shouldn’t even take the time to respond to comments like that… Just take the time you write to those fools and make a new post about something positive, in the future.
I read 2 of your books and I’ve never had the inclination to refute anything since it seems so deep entrenched in your personality… Please keep up the good work, don’t let haters do you harm 🙂
Good Mothers Day to all mommies!
Thank you my dear.
Hi Donna
I have read 3 of your books and found them very helpful.
Regardless of whatever label you have or whatever label others think you should have, I found your story helpful.
And not just me but many others as well.
Live long and prosper
Nev
Hi Nev,
thanks. It’s very healthy to know the world is mostly full of neither blinkered followers nor fixated zealots and that most people are in fact relatively balanced.
warmly,
Donna *)
Hi Donna,
I have never really been a person to respond online but it’s topics like these that seems to leading me to be more ‘public’.
In particular in the last 3-5 years I’ve become uncomforable with much of the ideals being promoted by those referring to themselves as creating Autistic Culture and using terms like ‘nuerotypical’… It was good to see more public discussion of Autism but at times as a person quietly identifying as ‘somewhere on the spectrum’ I’ve become a little dismayed by some of the views presented by some who self-diagnose as Aspergers or Autistic…
In the last few years it has seemed that there is more and more conversation about Autism and Aspergers and I have noticed much debate about diagnosis between the experts and insiders. It’s a tricky issue. And recognising the co-existance of personality disorders with those on the spectrum or the potential for the two to be confused seems quite relevant to me…
Why? I myself was diagnosed with a ‘borderline personality disorder’ prior to a diagnosis of Aspergers prior to further diagnosis of Aspergers with Autistic personality traits (can’t remember tech terms at the moment) and then co-mobid conditons of ADHD, bi-polar, learning disorders…
I recall wondering a few years after the diagnosis on the spectrum about connections between the previous diagnsosis of persoanlity disorder. I’ve met those with persoanlity disorder diagnosis that I wondered were Aspergers and those with Aspergers that I wondered were personality. Certainly, at times in my life I consider my personality traits combining with co-mobid issues rolled over into ‘disorder’ – at others merely extreme personality traits.
So, I often wonder about the cross connections too. And about the difference of Aspergers/Autism and of those like myself who seem in our own self-reflection and the professionals we work with of it being all bundled up. Although, I found your notion of ‘fruit salad’ extremely helpful in this respect.
It all seems extremely complex.
Gives one much to think about
Regards,
Paula J
I think that people with co-morbids and information processing challenges will often find the chronic stress of these puts up the tempo of their personality traits into disorder proportions. If they stay in those proportions for some months or years they would present as personality disordered.
People on the autism spectrum will have a range of personality traits and some will be Mercurial, putting them at risk of Borderline Personality Disorder. But they’d really have to fit the mercurial personality trait of which borderline is the disorder extreme. This is a trait in which the person is distressed by being along, lives for deeply entangled relationships with others and has a very low level of individuality. If one is the opposite and lives for autonomy, solitude and individuality, then one is likely not mercurial. Two of people’s favorite accusations re my personality have been Borderline and Schizotypal. It’s extremely obvious that I am highly solitary by nature, struggle to tolerate extended social contact, am nervous of intimacy, value my logic and emotional detachability, I struggle to see any logic in idealising anyone and am aversive to deep social entanglements, so the Borderline idea is very ignorant and one must ask why anyone would wish to project this onto someone. What’s the gain? But I can see I’ve been idiosyncratic enough to be Schizotypal at times. Einstein, in fact, is cited as an archetypal example of the idiosyncratic trait so I’m in reasonable company amidst other raving non-conformists.
I also think its problematic to think any self injurious person has borderline personality disorder. That’s like saying any person who flaps is autistic. I’d been self injurious since age 2 and that may be fairly normal in a toddler with rapid cycling bipolar, particularly perhaps if they have inherited tendencies to addiction and become hooked on their own chemistry extremes. I’d also self injured when unable to use language to make myself understood and when living with sexual abuse and exploitation in my teens.
Anyway, in the end armchair experts will continue to try and turn life into a soap opera and the more well known the names they can use the more they can raise their profile so I’m told it comes with the territory.
Hi again,
In response to a couple of your questions:
I think it does indeed seem possible to confuse personality disorders with Aspergers/Autism,
It DOES seem like there are those who politically self-diagnose with Aspergers who behave in very personality disordered ways
Maybe it is more common in those with Aspergers,
And
Definitely, it makes sense that those managing multiple co-mobid conditions with being on the spectrum may be more prone to it.
I agree with much you suggest
and wonder at it too,
thanks
🙂
I agree with your statement that “often find the chronic stress of these puts up the tempo of their personality traits into disorder proportions. If they stay in those proportions for some months or years they would present as personality disordered”.
This was certainly what happened in my life. It was interesting when I passed on all documentation of every psych person who had accessed me to an specialised Autistic Spectrum professional – they recognised the misinterpretation straight away.
To me it highlights the diversity of actual personality types of people on the spectrum AND the ‘narrow’ ideas some have of people on the spectrum. It’s almost as if Autistic people are expected to have one type of personality, and any variations of that is just labeled part of the autism. I recall you suggesting this type of idea in some of your discussions, if I have interpreted you correctly.
Have I??
Do you think that it’s like ‘if a person on the spectrum behaves in a disordered way that it’s the autism, when in reality it may just be that there are some on the spectrum who have difficulties being functional, or decent, or keeping their personality in check, just as there is for normal people?
It’s a great question.
it is certainly true that if one already has certain personality traits – vigilant, solitary, idiosyncratic, exuberant, sensitive, leisurely, devoted, conscientious, serious – and these end up in their respective disorder proportions of paranoid, schizoid, schizotypal, cyclothymic, avoidant, avoidant, passive-agfressive, dependent, obsessive-compulsive, depressive, that this could constitute what is called ‘Mixed Personality Disorder’ and could present autistically or Aspergerian. And some of these will contribute to Alexithymia which is a personality state common to around 85% of people dx’d on the autism spectrum… essentially an ‘autistic personality’.
The converse is also true, that if a person who has the same cognitive, perceptual, health or co-morbid issues shared by those with autism BUT has personality traits less commonly manifesting under chronic stress in an ‘autistic’ manner, that such people will be both less likely to be dx’d with autism and their autism will be more likely to be contested as ‘not pure autism’.
Of Oldham’s 16 traits those which most fit me are Vigilant, Idiosyncratic, Solitary and Exuberant (also called the Artistic trait) and all are relatively solitary by nature in different ways. So up the tempo and yes they’ll behave relatively autistically (in the case of the exuberant trait they’ll behave ARTistically 😉 but I have a 5th trait which is not common in those dx’d on the spectrum. I’m a self sacrificer, I love to give, to be helpful, useful, in the extreme, that’s a masochist (ha ha maybe that’s why I put up with zealous obsessives longer than I should ;-). And I have certainly been considered too kind, too thoughtful, too helpful, too concerned for others (ie empathic) to be ‘autistic’ in spite of my diagnosis and history. So somehow being a natural carer is meant to mean I’m immune to visual, verbal, body agnosias, immune to co-morbids or the health issues which all contributed to my cognitively and perceptually ‘autistic’ ‘normality’…. so you can see we live in archaic times. I also have as secondary traits, the Sensitive, the Conscientious and the Serious so I have some lesser traits which can present me as stereotypically ‘Aspie’ in personality too… a real Aspinaut of a personality really… but with a self sacrificer thrown in, just to give me something in common with the annoying do-gooders of the non-spectrum world (yes, I try so hard to help sometimes it’s probably annoying).
Anyway, same would be true for those with traits like the Self Confident, the Dramatic, the Adventurous or the Mercurial because thriving on admiration, attention, adventure or social entanglement is not stereotypically ‘autistic’.
🙂
I definitely think keeping one’s personality in check is harder for people on the spectrum but they are often INDULGED too much too… given the EXCUSE to continue not to reign in or reality check their shitola. When I was a kid I’d be introduced as ‘that’s Donna, she’s feral’ (my father) or ‘that’s Donna, she’s disturbed’ (my mother). I was also introduced in childhood as ‘she’s psychotic’. So, when that’s your intro you have free reign to indulge your extremes. I swung the opposite (reverse psychology always defeated me because I’m a raving non-conformist) so instead I tried to ‘act normal’. But it just shows that whether the label is psychotic, disturbed or more modernly, autistic, it can be a licence to avoid responsibility for self management. I’m glad I tired of being defined by my labels. But its ironic because people fixate on me because I still have one and I guess because I defy the hopeless outcome they expect of all autistic people. I’m not tidy for them. I’d be tidier if various treatments, strategies, adaptations had all failed and I was still pissing in my room, punching myself in the face, headbutting people, throwing chairs and speaking in advertisements yet neatly tucked away in a home for the disturbed. I’m simply inconvenient.
Thanks Donna – your ideas are thought provoking! I could potentially continue with more questions, ponderings etc.
I think maybe there are many out there who defy the sterotypes of autism or outcomes…
I suspect it’s simply that you have told your story and many others haven’t…which is why I especially appreciate the honesty in regards to autistic ‘fleas’… and even raising the topic of personality disorders… are suggesting that autistic culture may be prejudice a little too…
Anyway, thanks.
🙂
[…] On May 8th, 2009 at 11:16 pm e donna Says:Hi Nicole, […]
Hi again Donna and everyone 🙂
I feel like I must respond publically to this.
It’s abit of a rant (sorry Donna, if I had my own blog I’d do it there!)
I was doing a little research about the historic to current debate surrounding autism last night for a chapter in my thesis.
I feel I need to respond publically to what I found in this land of cyber space…
I grew up in a time when we were not diagnosed. We were: crazy, naughty, bad, mad, lazy, disturbed, strange, weird, dumb, stupid….
I suffered the damage of living in a time before knowledge included ideas of a autistic spectrum…but I lived in a stable loving home with parents who did their best, despite outsiders projecting opinions about all I could apparently not achieve…qualifications, employment, independent living…they supported and taught me when others considered there to be no point…
Still, I was damaged and stressed to a point where medical intervention was needed and the professionals diagnosed me with ‘personality disorders’ because they had never heard of the autistic spectrum… and suffered years of over medication which made me more ‘crazy’…
This was later overturned when ‘new’ knowledge emerged about a spectrum and Aspergers….
And later further expanded on by ‘newer’ knowledge and more experienced professionals…
So, I recall life before diagnosis and everything that went with it….
I remember the statements from professionals like Uta Frith suggesting that the person with Aspergers realise they will never be normal no matter how normal they seem…and that parents should be careful not to be fooled by the beauty of autism…
I watched when the voices of autistic adults was added to the mix and parents, professionals, educators alike drew on these ideas in their own perspectives and research… knowledge construction that ultimately underpins much current positions…even if it’s often not acknowledged…
I saw the emergence of autistic culture on the web and remember who were the first to publically, openly seek connections, communities and support for autistic people as a group…I remember those early pioneers who also began using a new terminology of aspi, autie…thank you Jim Sinclair, Donna Williams and those others who were there in the beginning…
I’ve watched as the paternal organisations began to raise money for scientific research for cure of autism, and been offended by the degree to which they think they speak for autism and been frightened by their agenda…
I watched the new breed of cultural ‘insiders’ respond to the paternal ‘outsider’ groups with equal fanaticism, and as they projected their malice to other ‘insiders’ who don’t happen to agree with their point of view….
I experienced professionals bickering about ‘what’ I may be as if I were not actually a person… I’ve had other ‘insiders’ complain about the professionals labelling and diagnosing, only to then diagnose me themselves as one of them or not and decide if I was part of the group…
I’ve been criticised for being too ‘out’ when attempting to speak about having autism and criticised for not dis-closing enough…as if my personal identity and circumstances were other people’s property and discussion of my autism on their terms their ‘right’…not mine…
I’ve been treated as a ‘victim’ because of others perception of who I should be because of their (lack of) knowledge of autism…and I’ve been ignored when having difficulties with my conditions when others have decided that I’ve moved out of the spectrum because the success I’ve achieved is considered impossible for someone on the spectrum…
I lived through the changes in knowledge and debate… and had every stereotype given to me…from ‘insiders’, ‘outsiders’, ‘professionals’…
I’m saddened by it all…
I think it’s a war that needs to stop too…
Donna is not the only one who is inconvenient in defying stereotypes…
And she is not the only one with inconvenient ‘truths’
Or who will speak it
I don’t agree with all of Donnas views, opinions, perspectives,
But on this one I do.
And that someone who has so openly given their ‘stories’ to the public, it’s shameful that there do indeed seem those filled with hate from all sides.
🙂
Hi Paula,
yes, it is a harsh world out there and pretty much all we have is the law. We can only point out when people have crossed from opinion into libel and defamation and beyond that a Buddhist’s detachment and a Taoists relativism come in handy 🙂
Life’s a kind of obstacle course, other times its like a battle, or an adventure park and it all comes down to attitude, flexibility, resilience, integrity, humility and humour.
I’ve also found that shit usually sticks best to the shit throwers themselves. And I’ve found wonderful humanity in some who have been targeted by the most virulent attackers: Rosemary Crossley, Doug Biklen, Amanda Baggs.
I remember meeting Rosemary and I said forthrightly, “I like you” (very rare for me as I’m laregly neutral about most people) and she said, “no, don’t like me, my name’s mud”. I said, “I don’t care, I like you”. And pretty much, I like to be that kind of person.
If this were Nazi Germany, I wouldn’t be one who throws the second stone because others already threw the first (really its amazing how many shit throwers justify themselves this way) and I wouldn’t call to the third and thirteenth and thirtieth off in the distance to come andjoin in the stone throwing. I’d be the one who found someone I liked, German or Jew, hated or loved, and said, “I don’t care who or what you are, don’t care how many people glorify or vilify you, I will look across at you as someone I just like”.
🙂
As someone who has been diagnosed as being on the autistic spectrum (by an expert at the medical school of my local university, which trains doctors for the nearby hospital) I am utterly astonished to hear people say that anyone would lie about being autistic, or use it as an “excuse” for “bad behaviour.” My life was lonely and miserable for decades, and when I found out about my autism, things began, very slowly, to change. And like most autistics I am passionate about fairness and truth. Diagnosis enabled me to see when I had hurt people, and to do something about it! Why this hostility to autistics? Why this idea that non-autistic people are trying to pass themselves off as autistic, as if it meant you’d get lots of money or be highly attractive because of it? Why this rage at people who are just trying to make sense of their lives? Very bizarre. Another sort of conspiracy theory maybe.
I came here, anyway, because my ex was a fervent conspiracy theorist. This was because he was paranoid. But he wouldn’t believe he was. It was exhausting. “I do understand that that’s how you see the world, but I’m afraid I don’t agree.” That’d be OK, surely? No. He resented that. And you couldn’t argue back about chem-trails or whatever – it was a waste of time. No rational argument worked. I did make it clear I wasn’t going to listen to that crap about vaccines causing autism though. (He was paranoid in many other areas, too).
I didn’t know very much at all about him when we began. That was a big lesson for me. Being autistic, I have had very few relationships, and I’m learning very late in life now. Get to know someone very well before you start to be their girlfriend. Just because you adore someone doesn’t mean they are the one for you, or that you can cope with their problems (or they with yours).
The conspiracy theory thing may seem annoying but harmless – but not when it comes to anti-vaccine panics, or to health workers being killed for trying to administer polio shots. And irrationality is bad for the soul, and for society.
I went to a group which conducted research into CBT for Asperger’s people, and at the follow-up assessment, the researcher said a very interesting thing: that it isn’t so much the labels that matter, as the process of establishing a narrative which makes sense of your life. For me, that was recognising my neurology differs from the normative. For my ex, that meant believing the world is terrifyingly dangerous in almost every aspect. So I do think finding the correct label or labels is vital to peace of mind.
I was diagnosed at age 2 in a 3 day inpatient hospital assessment at St Elmo’s Hospital in 1965. Unfortunately Kanner at that time described autism as infantile psychosis so my diagnosis at age 2 was ‘psychotic’. So I grew up introduced as ‘that’s Donna, she’s psychotic’ and only heard myself suggested as ‘autistic’ when I was around 10. So when I was an adult and now had functional speech I knew I wasn’t crazy enough to fit ‘psychotic’ so I searched to understand what kind of crazy I was. I came across a differentiation between psychosis and autism and remembered the word from when I was 10. I hadn’t thought the word ‘autistic’ to be relevant as I thought it was an adjective that meant ‘withdrawn’ which was no news to me so I didn’t think it could explain anything. I phoned my father and demanded to know my diagnostic history. That’s when he told me the whole shebang, how I was diagnosed psychotic at age 2, how I was suggested to be autistic when I was 10. It was in my mid 20s that that original diagnosis was confirmed, this time by Australia’s leading autism expert at that time, Dr Lawrie Bartak. But because my autobiography was published and became a bestseller, this became fuel for one of my lecturers. And the rest is conspiracy history. http://www.donnawilliams.net/diagnosis.0.html . Ironically, most of my most virulent haters identify themselves as Aspie and had my first two books not been bestsellers, Temple Grandin’s first bestseller in 1995 would perhaps never have become known either and Aspergers may never have been revisited as a valid diagnosis to make sense of these strange speaking autists.